Is it safe to use old tool batteries for a DIY power bank?

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  • #15506
    Greg T.
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    I have a couple of old cordless drill batteries sitting in my garage and I was thinking about turning one into a power bank for camping. But I’m not sure if it’s safe to just wire them up to a USB port or if I need some kind of protection circuit. I don’t want to fry my phone. Anyone done this before?

    #15514
    Tom_Craig
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    You can get the plastic shell and cells for basically nothing, but the charge board is the part people skip. I pulled one apart expecting decent cells and got two usable ones out of five, rest were puffed. The terminals also don’t line up with standard USB boards so you end up soldering anyway.

    #15525
    Colin P.
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    The USB part is what usually gets people in trouble, not the battery itself. Those drill packs can put out way more current than a phone expects, and if you just run wires to a USB socket the phone will try to pull whatever it wants. I’ve seen a buddy’s setup get warm enough that he unplugged it and never bothered again. If you’re going to do it, at least use one of those little car USB adapters that already handles the voltage step down and has its own fuse inside. That’s the lazy version and it’s still safer than raw wiring. The cells themselves are usually fine if they still hold a charge, it’s the charging and output side that people hand wave. For camping I’d honestly just grab a cheap power bank and save the drill packs for a flashlight project or something.

    #15534
    HarrY
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    Not sure I buy the whole “you’ll fry your phone” thing. I’ve used an old 18v pack with one of those cheap buck converters for a couple camping trips and my phone is still fine. The bigger issue for me was that the pack just doesn’t hold much. Two nights and it was basically dead, and I wasn’t even charging much. So it works, but it’s not some magic free power source. The cells in those drill packs are old and tired. If you’re expecting it to replace a real power bank you’ll be disappointed. Fine for a quick top up, not much else. And you do need something to step the voltage down, can’t just wire it straight to USB.

    #15543
    Emma__LEmma__L
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    I used an old 12v pack for a little camping fan setup last summer and it worked fine for a few trips, but it died way sooner than I expected. Honestly the cells in those things are usually more tired than people think.

    #15552
    Sam ReadsSam Reads
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    Mine sat in the garage for probably two years before I messed with it and it still had a decent charge. I just used a little USB adapter thing and it charged my phone fine on one trip. Not saying I’d leave it plugged in overnight though.

    #15560
    Lisa BassLisa Bass
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    I’ve messed with a couple of those packs for a little LED light setup and the thing that surprised me was how much the cells had drifted apart from each other. One pack had two cells that were still fine and one that was basically dead weight, so the whole thing acted weird even though the pack as a whole still showed a charge. That part doesn’t really come up when people just talk about wiring a USB port on. If you’re pulling from a pack that’s been sitting a while, the cells inside aren’t necessarily all on the same page anymore. Not saying it can’t work, just that a pack reading good voltage doesn’t mean every cell in there is healthy. I ended up using the better cells separately and ditching the rest.

    #15568
    Mike TurnerMike Turner
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    Mine puffed up after a week of sitting.

    #15578
    Luke M
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    Frying your phone is overblown, that part isn’t the real risk.

    #15586
    Susan Keller
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    Protection circuit is the one thing I wouldn’t skip.

    #15594
    Owen Jerome
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    I went down this road with a couple of old Ryobi packs and ended up using one for a little speaker project. What I noticed was the age of the pack matters way more than the brand or anything. One pack that was maybe four years old still held a charge fine and ran the speaker for a whole weekend. The other one, which was older, dropped off a cliff after about twenty minutes. So it’s a bit of a gamble depending on how the cells have held up. You won’t really know until you try it. As for frying your phone, that wasn’t what I worried about. I just used a little USB adapter that plugs into the pack and it worked. The main thing for me was whether the pack itself was still in decent shape. If it charges up normally and doesn’t get hot, that’s a good sign. Mine didn’t, so I just used it for the speaker where a sudden cutoff wasn’t a big deal.

    #15603

    I did basically that with an old Ridgid pack and it ran my phone all weekend at the lake with no trouble. I just wired it to a USB car charger and rolled with it. Phone charged fine every time, never got hot or weird on me.

    #15613
    Chloe M.
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    Frying your phone is actually the part I’d be least worried about. The real question is whether the pack itself is worth the hassle, since old drill batteries are usually half dead anyway. I tried one for a camping fan and it barely lasted an evening.

    #15622
    coffeeandscreenscoffeeandscreens
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    Wiring it straight to a USB port is where I’d pause. I tried something similar with an old pack for a little camping light and it worked fine for a while, but I still wouldn’t plug a phone into it without some kind of board in between. The battery part is whatever, it’s the cheap USB side that makes me nervous.

    #15631
    Owen21Owen21
    Member

    Depends how old. Mine were dead weight.

    #15640
    Greg T.
    Member

    Probably just gonna grab a cheap one off Amazon instead.

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